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Old 09/02/2009
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

I can't say damage, but even in sc4 you could do fc c2b c3a c2bb c2aa. It's harder to land (same with c3b c3a) just because you need to have really near or have c3a charged already. If it's the same in BD then thats probably the best damage from it.
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

As of right now.. arguing about whether SCBD will make it to console or not is useless. All assumptions made are pretty much 50/50. Anyone's guess can be correct as well as wrong. There is no solid proof whether it will swing one way or the other. Until there is proof about SCBD making or not making console, then at that time we should be having this discussion. Wrong topic, wrong time.
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

Are you guys forgetting when Namco "confirmed" that Vader and Yoda would not be DLC?
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

Well, a DLC of BD is harder than the DR.
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

The PSP is one of the worst selling consoles in recent history so I think BD coming to the playstation network as it's own game is highly likely. I really don't believe SCBD is selling to well, and then add in the fact that people are busy trying to hack the latest firmware, and the sales could be even worse. If they just port BD to PSN there are no physical games they have to pay for. Just change some things around, and throw it online for people to download.
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

Quote: Originally Posted by OOFMATIC View Post (Post ID: #146455)
Are you guys forgetting when Namco "confirmed" that Vader and Yoda would not be DLC?
Exactly. Companies, especially video game companies, like to deny all rumors, as to promise something and not deliver on it would cause massive outrage (imagine if your supposed source said it would come out and it never did).
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

i'm all for a brand new game, like what they did for arcade edition. It's actually less messy and if you dont like it, you can always jump back to SC4 1.03
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Quote: Originally Posted by Something-Unique View Post (Post ID: #146403)
If this is indeed the case it confirms my Scamco theory that PhilBond was so nice to try and dismantle everything I said look stupid based on that alone.
I didn't dismantle any of your arguments (at that time). I was just trying to tell you that language is important, and you weren't talking like someone who should be taken seriously. I've never noticed that tone out of you before, but since you started this thread, you've started using the words of a man whose intellect serves his anger more than the truth. What was your "Scamco theory" again? That Namco Bandai is called Scamco, and Broken Destiny is a ported version of a minor upgrade to SCIV, and they're selling it to try and make money? Is that supposed to sound like a shady, shocking conspiracy? Where's the "theory" part? Where's the part that I didn't believe because I thought it was too "stupid?" Other than this-

You're now coming to us telling us that "its already been confirmed that SC:BD will not make it to console," as though there was an announcement and we're all supposed to know that already: but when pressed, you reveal that it's more like you "like, totally know this dude who knows this dude. He's the real deal. For serious. Trust me."

As Oofmatic said, these companies deny everything about their projects for as long as possible until their marketing departments give the okay to individual details. I know one of these types of guys. He's a very good friend, but he still never tells me what licenses his studio is working on, because I had a YouTube video hit the front page of Digg once, and to him that makes me kind of like the press. These guys are desperate to keep their awesome jobs in their competitive market, and they will lose those jobs if leaks are traced to them.
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

Zasalamel has 100% tracking on the unblockable again, just like SC4 before the patch.


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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

I was shown today that when you GI a TJing move in BD instead creating the normal post GI situation, it launches the attacker.
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

yeah that's what shenou said a couple pages back. cool change
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

Yoshi´s iMCF can lead to 80 combo at least with the typical combo or if u have mastered JF 4A (easier now), you´ll get 122 or propably a RO cause the stages are now smaller.
Wall combos are more like doom combos now.
3B, a:B+K, 66B is guaranteed again, but only does like 57 dmg, so is way better to for JF 4A (again, easier now) wich can lead to 90 dmg combo, or 3B, 6, a:B+K, DNK, 3B for 71 dmg.
Recovery from SDGF K is a lot easier now, you can get the perfect version almos all the time, wich is great.
44bB still here, and now u can do it after 3B+K:B, at least two times, so this is gonna be the bread and butter after iMCF.

Anyway, Mitsu is buffed in every sense, is faster, stronger, better combos, he even got back his knock down after CH 33K.
If only the second hit of 4KB hits u, it will give him a strong combo like 33B, so in wall combos that shit is good.
3B doesn´t launch higher as someone else said, it launches less actually, u cant get 236[B], but who cares, 3B, k:B is combo, JU can be used, but is hard.
Now, CH 3B launches higher, so 236[B], mmm... still testing k:B, seems either char specific or strict timing required, but it does 101 dmg, but who is gonna get up instantly when they can be easily tech trapped by 1[A] wich lead to 100 dmg in total.
AA is 13 now.

Mitsu got buffed, 3B is not as unsafe, but still unsafe, and Yoshi, still Yoshi, needs a lot of techiche skills, but now is very rewarding.
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

Quote: Originally Posted by Impending_Doom66 View Post (Post ID: #146484)
The PSP is one of the worst selling consoles in recent history so I think BD coming to the playstation network as it's own game is highly likely. I really don't believe SCBD is selling to well, and then add in the fact that people are busy trying to hack the latest firmware, and the sales could be even worse. If they just port BD to PSN there are no physical games they have to pay for. Just change some things around, and throw it online for people to download.
This fact alone really does help the argument that Namco will make BD downloadable eventually. They will realize they aren't making any money on BD because a fighting game on a handheld is pretty much always a bad idea for business. Especially when the DS sales compared to the PSP look like Usain Bolt running in the Special Olympics. You would have thought they learned their lesson from T5 but it looks like not. It probably didn't cost much to port SC4 and add 2 new characters and stages so it shouldn't cost much to port them in a patch and charge us 20 bucks for it. Who knows, maybe they'll port it over in the form of a brand new game and charge us MORE money! Although, I'd imagine they'll have to rehash some character they had before *cough Spawn, Necrid cough* cause I don't see Sony allowing them to have Kratos on Xbox.
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

I have no optimism for Kratos ever making it off PSP. I have lots of optimism for other things, but I don't hold out any hope for that.
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

I think BD will be downloadable, but like a whole new game. Like Tekken 5 DR.


Unless theres a way you can re-write the code to put in things that arent on the cd. I dont know all the tech stuff.
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

Well...you wouldn't re-write the code you would add to it. Look at WoW and all its expansions/patches. Granted it's not exactly the same but it would work in a similar manner.

Anyways, I'm glad to hear Zas got buffed. He really deserved it. Can't wait to see that on console in Omega's hands.

I'd love to see a really dangerous Mitsu on console with those changes.

Any news on Lizardman buffs/nerfs?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Artilust View Post (Post ID: #146532)
I think BD will be downloadable, but like a whole new game. Like Tekken 5 DR.


Unless theres a way you can re-write the code to put in things that arent on the cd. I dont know all the tech stuff.
They can require that you have SC4 installed and have the disc in the system. That way, the patch only loads the new stuff and changes, while the graphics/music/sound stays with the original SC4 disc.
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

Can someone confirm my findings for Amy? I am getting quite annoyed that these combos are whiffing out of nowhere. I am pretty sure, I am doing them correctly.

Quote: Originally Posted by My5tiC4L View Post (Post ID: #146335)

Some new Amy changes

Pros:

236K:A; is way too easy to perform now.

Cons:

66A+B B+K 8A+B; does not combo, 8A+B will not hit. I've always landed this.

66A+B B+K 236KK; doesn't seem guaranteed anymore. 236KK sometimes misses completely. (More strict timing?) I've never missed this combo before until i tried it on BD.

66A+B B+K 236K:A; 236K:A has whiffing issues as well as the above. (More strict timing as well?)


Can others confirm these as well?

By the way, I'm testing these on Nightmare, I will try other characters as well.
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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

Seems like flashing red gauges wont be replenished by the next round. This guy got Soul crushed at the start of the final round lol. (2:50) Interesting. Ppl need to purge their armour at the start of the round?

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Default Re: SC:BD Explained!

From what I have read on PSPISO, SCBD has been cracked. There go more BD sales.
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