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This is an overview of the most powerful (damage-wise) options each character has post-GI. All listed damage is without tech. Throws are listed for characters who do less than 40 damage or if the throws are powerful. One option listed means slower options do less damage.
Character name Fast option(s) = free damage/attempt within the 24 frame window if they don't re-GI (damage, notes) Slow option(s) = free damage if they attempt to re-GI immediately (damage, notes) Algol 3B QI B 3B (80) 4[K] 3B QI B 3B (91) Amy 66A+B BT B+K AmS KK (61) BP B 44K 66B+K AmS K:A (71) Astaroth AB (36), command throws 66[K] PT (104) Cassandra AS :[B] x4 4BB:A (71) 33B A+B AS :[B] 4BB:A (87) Cervantes 3B 8A+K iGDR 8B (83) 8A+B:B+K 3B 8A+K iGDR 8B (97-98) Dampierre 11B 623K:K:K:K:K:K:K:K 4B (128) Hilde C3B C3A C2BB C2AA (105, if spun into BT 112) Ivy In CL: CL A+BA+K WP 1B+K CL 4B 236BB (71, requires a step back on smaller characters), CS/SS In SW: 22B 6B8 (55), CS SW 44B 66K CL 236BB (64) In WP: WP 3[B] SE B:6B:4B:6B:4B (54), SS 1B 2B+K CL 4B 236BB (83) Kilik A+B 66B 66B (81) Kratos 4A 11_77BAA (60) 66B8 SA BB8 IR A:K (83) Lizardman 3B 66K (67) 11B 6[K] 66B (72) Maxi B+K:B:B:BA (75) 9K 33bA RC A 236A (101) Mitsurugi A+B[6] 33B (83) Nightmare 3[B] NSS b:A (74, NTC 87) 66B iWS [B] NSS b:A (85, NTC 100) Raphael 66[B] Prep K:K 11B (65) Rock 33B 1B+G 6B+K (62) 214A:A:A 3B+G (105) Seong Mi-Na A+B 1K (56) 4A+K 66A+B (66) Setsuka agB ag:B JF Umbrella (100) Siegfried 1B (63) 44A iWS AA (70) Sophitia TAS AA TAS B:4 (97) 4[A] TAS B:4 (104) Taki 11K A:6 WRO B (63) WRO BKB (76) Talim 33B:B 2A+B (69) 236[B] 66B 2A+B (75) Tira In JS: 4A:A 44K GS 3kA 11K BT 2K BF 66B (116) In GS: 4A:A BF 44K BF 44K BF 66B (92) 4444B 4B:B:B 22A BF 44K 22B BF 66B (125) Voldo 6:6B 66B 6:6B 2A+B CR B (65) [B+K] (75) In BS: BCR B 1[K] 2B+K MCHT K (71) Xianghua 25B 66B+K (66) 4A+B 33KA (71) Yoshimitsu 3B 4A:A:A:A:A a:B+K 66B (86) 33A+B iMCF 3AB 4A:A:A:A:A a:B+K 66B (103) Yun-Seong 8K:K:K:K (70) 33(B) CR 8K:K (78) Zasalamel 44K 66A+B (64) A+K b:K 6A+BB (96)
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8:06 PM [Malice] a+b with kilik is when he slaps your face with his rod 8:06 PM [mikosu] inb4 no homo 8:06 PM [Malice] sig that 8:06 PM [Lags] isn't kilik always pretty much slapping your face with his rod? :D ![]()
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Kilik:
Fast Option: i20-Frames A+B, 66B, 66B = 81 A+B, 46B, 6AAA = 89 (Character Specific; Can't remember but its a respectable amount) A+B, 3BB, aB = 104 (Character Specific; Can't remember but its a respectable amount) Slow Option: i27-Frames 4A+BBB = 65 Setsuka: Fast Option: i23-Frames ag:B, ag:B, Umbrella JF = 100 Variable Option: i17-Frames 1B:B, 1B:B, 214~3B:B, Umbrella JF, 33B = 92 Cervantes: Fast Option: i19-Frames 3B, 8A+K, iGDR, 8B = 85+ Variable Option: i15-Frames iGDR, 22B, 8A+K, iGDR, 8B = 80 *Variable refers to weaker choice but faster in frames so it can be played with either fast or slow.
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Ok. Those are all that I've found for now. Credit to SU for the Setsuka one. Inform me if there is a more damaging and consistent option than any listed. Tira has a more damaging one in JS but it only whiffs on Amy. Made me very sad.
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8:06 PM [Malice] a+b with kilik is when he slaps your face with his rod 8:06 PM [mikosu] inb4 no homo 8:06 PM [Malice] sig that 8:06 PM [Lags] isn't kilik always pretty much slapping your face with his rod? :D ![]() |
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Tira:
GS: Slow: GS 44B, 4B: B , 22_88A , BF 44K, BF 44K, BF 66B ~100Fast: 4A:A, BF 44K, BF 44K, BF 66B = ~90+ Air: 44K, BF 66B = 54 JS: Slow: iWS B+KK , 1K ~69 Fast: 4A:A, 44K (moodchange), 4B: B , 22_88A , BF 44K, BF 44K, BF 66B ~126Air: 44K (moodchange), GS BF 44K, GS 66B ~ 75 EDIT: Oops too late. I added the new "air-gi" thing despite it's not a mixup option, I thought it should be mentioned.
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Mikosu:
Dampierre's 11B fits in the GI window. So his strongest fast option would be... Dampierre's: 11B, 623K JF string, 4B = 144 Also minor correction on Kilik's slow option. It does 70 not 65.
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Arnie: Good point about GI-ing TJ moves but it's usually such an anticipatory thing that I'm not sure if listing it is worth it. Wouldn't hurt I suppose. Yea Amy's annoying as ever.
SU: Darn it. Dampy beat Tira in post-GI now thanks to that....besides her whole transition thing :( Circus kicks JF is definitely worth mastering.
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8:06 PM [Malice] a+b with kilik is when he slaps your face with his rod 8:06 PM [mikosu] inb4 no homo 8:06 PM [Malice] sig that 8:06 PM [Lags] isn't kilik always pretty much slapping your face with his rod? :D ![]() |
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Poor Ivy. Small correction:
CL A+B,A+K, WP 1B+K, CL 4B, CL 236BB - 71 SW 44B, 66K, CL 236BB - 64 You can also add the command throws.
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I dont even care about BD (not that anyone should) but best combo post GI for mitsu is A+B[6] k:B for 95 (not sure if A+B[6] is the best starter though, but it seems so)
I think MST A+B or 236[B] nets an even more damaging combo (slightly) for a slow option. But I'm not sure if its more damage , its been long ago since I tested.
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Those don't work on Amy unfortunately. It's really surprising how her hitbox has gotten smaller.
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8:06 PM [Malice] a+b with kilik is when he slaps your face with his rod 8:06 PM [mikosu] inb4 no homo 8:06 PM [Malice] sig that 8:06 PM [Lags] isn't kilik always pretty much slapping your face with his rod? :D ![]() |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Belial
(Post ID: #175625)
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8:06 PM [Malice] a+b with kilik is when he slaps your face with his rod 8:06 PM [mikosu] inb4 no homo 8:06 PM [Malice] sig that 8:06 PM [Lags] isn't kilik always pretty much slapping your face with his rod? :D ![]()
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To add: If NM is in NTC his dmg goes up to 87 and 100 respectively.
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8:06 PM [Malice] a+b with kilik is when he slaps your face with his rod 8:06 PM [mikosu] inb4 no homo 8:06 PM [Malice] sig that 8:06 PM [Lags] isn't kilik always pretty much slapping your face with his rod? :D ![]() |
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What's Tira's best if you're not banking on an unreliable mood change?
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JS:
33B 33AA (50) 4KB 22B (63) GS: What's already listed.
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8:06 PM [Malice] a+b with kilik is when he slaps your face with his rod 8:06 PM [mikosu] inb4 no homo 8:06 PM [Malice] sig that 8:06 PM [Lags] isn't kilik always pretty much slapping your face with his rod? :D ![]() |
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Sophitia's options upgraded.
Hilde as well: C3B B+K C2BB C2AA (104) to C3B C3A C2BB C2AA (105). Amy upgraded by 1 point.
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8:06 PM [Malice] a+b with kilik is when he slaps your face with his rod 8:06 PM [mikosu] inb4 no homo 8:06 PM [Malice] sig that 8:06 PM [Lags] isn't kilik always pretty much slapping your face with his rod? :D ![]()
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Algore slow option found. Yun slow option changed.
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8:06 PM [Malice] a+b with kilik is when he slaps your face with his rod 8:06 PM [mikosu] inb4 no homo 8:06 PM [Malice] sig that 8:06 PM [Lags] isn't kilik always pretty much slapping your face with his rod? :D ![]() |
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i think cervy's best slow option would be FC A+BBBBBBB cause if they reGI they eat 70 dmg and great wake up and if they dont your at +13. Or 66A+B 8A+K iGDR 28B.
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mikosu: I checked A+B[6] k:B on amy , it works perfectly
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Mikosu are you sure Cervys 8A+B:B+K gives a free 3B on NH in BD??
In SC4 its only +15 like all the JFs, 3B only on ch....that would be a nice buff...
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