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Old 09/12/2008
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

I posted the following on your sister site.

Personally I've not had an issue with Soul Crushes, maybe that's an issue offline. JIing throws, that's just wierd. As for changes I'd like to see:

~Enlarge the GI/GP window to what they were in previous SC games.
~Fix multi-part throws like Talims Monsoon Season & Xianhuas Twisting Lotus Flow; seriously what's the point of having the multi-part throws when they basically do the same damage as a one part throw?
~Speaking of Talim, I'd be estatic of her 1A was like it was in SC02.
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaxel View Post (Post ID: #8413)
The game is clearly balanced with online play in mind... This is one of the many reasons I hate the idea of games getting online play. People liked to say "if you don't like online play, nothing is forcing you to play it". But its not as simple as that, the changes made to the game because of the online play, affect you during offline play. The game is balanced for online, so offline balance gets the shaft.

Hell... they nerfed a Talim move! Offline she's the worst character in the game! Online... she's top tier.
I'm not so sure. Wouldn't they have nerfed Kilik and Mitsu if they were balancing for online?

I'm guessing they nerfed Talim's A+K because it had TJ frames when it didn't look like she was jumping. No?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jaxel View Post (Post ID: #8413)
Hell... they nerfed a Talim move! Offline she's the worst character in the game! Online... she's top tier.
the move in question is glitchy as hell the way it is now. moves sweeping right through talims legs. its not about nerfing her, it's about fixing a hitbox glitch. if you look at the entire patch overall talim is now better.
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

Mi-na been improved? I sure hope so.

I wonder if they fixed the 3rd star wars stage. I still reckon its only unplayable due to lazy programming.
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

something small , but im not sure. it seems as though the push back on soph's 4b+k on block has been increased.

anyways, in terms of sg, soph's 4b+k used to take 8 to break, now it takes 10. you see a lot less SC's than you did before.

i know everyone knew sg had been increased, but i was just citing an example.
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

I don't ming the patch. Even if I use Amy, the lowered damage of 3BA isn't really that bad.
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

Quote: Originally Posted by Tiamat View Post (Post ID: #8361)
I wonder how many patches till they decide to make kilik WS B unsafe on guard.
Doesn't need to be. Could use a nerf on soul gauge damage but that's about it. It's steppable to his left, and is part of one of his main weaknesses, nothing fast enough to act as a solid low punisher. You should see me play against Fox, bare 1a's all day lol.

And lol at Talim nerf, see Jay I told you she was really Dan in disguise. Before you know it she'll have like 5 taunts and an autograph attack, and run around the stage yelling OYAJIIIIIIIIII!!!!! Work on that Yoshi son!
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

Any word on when this is coming out in the US?
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

Quote: Originally Posted by EscapingJail View Post (Post ID: #8448)
Any word on when this is coming out in the US?
When Europe gets DLC

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Quote: Originally Posted by PhoenixDevice View Post (Post ID: #8420)
the move in question is glitchy as hell the way it is now. moves sweeping right through talims legs. its not about nerfing her, it's about fixing a hitbox glitch. if you look at the entire patch overall talim is now better.
Yet Talim almost never tech crouches, yet it always looks like she is tech crouching... isn't that a hitbox glitch? Giver her some tech crouch back! Every character tech crouches more than she does; to the point that I think she only has 1 low that tech crouches, and thats in back turn. I can never use her 9B tech jump attack because everyone's lows seem to tech crouch (and 9B is a high now, instead of a low)! Yet her's dont.

How is Talim better overall in this patch? She's still unsafe, still has no range, still does no damage and is still extremely slow... Not to mention her guard breaks suck, her soul crushing sucks, her unblockables suck... She's got no good mixups, and very few cancels... she sucks.
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaxel View Post (Post ID: #8455)
Yet Talim almost never tech crouches, yet it always looks like she is tech crouching... isn't that a hitbox glitch? Giver her some tech crouch back! Every character tech crouches more than she does; to the point that I think she only has 1 low that tech crouches, and thats in back turn. I can never use her 9B tech jump attack because everyone's lows seem to tech crouch (and 9B is a high now, instead of a low)! Yet her's dont.

How is Talim better overall in this patch? She's still unsafe, still has no range, still does no damage and is still extremely slow... Not to mention her guard breaks suck, her soul crushing sucks, her unblockables suck... She's got no good mixups, and very few cancels... she sucks.
Is a tech crouch equivalent to a high crush or am i completely off base here?
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

Yeah EJ

TC = high crush
TJ = low crush
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

Quote: Originally Posted by sebiel View Post (Post ID: #8461)
Yeah EJ

TC = high crush
TJ = low crush
Thank you.
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

the stage lag is a console issue imo,
ive played both versions and noticed the lag on ps3 right away
and the 360 never lags, go figure
too bad ps3 is the tourney standard, but if it were 360 everyone would have stick and pad complaints,
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaxel View Post (Post ID: #8455)
Yet Talim almost never tech crouches, yet it always looks like she is tech crouching... isn't that a hitbox glitch? Giver her some tech crouch back! Every character tech crouches more than she does; to the point that I think she only has 1 low that tech crouches, and thats in back turn. I can never use her 9B tech jump attack because everyone's lows seem to tech crouch (and 9B is a high now, instead of a low)! Yet her's dont.

How is Talim better overall in this patch? She's still unsafe, still has no range, still does no damage and is still extremely slow... Not to mention her guard breaks suck, her soul crushing sucks, her unblockables suck... She's got no good mixups, and very few cancels... she sucks.
1. the other characters are worse, so talim is comparatively better
2. tira can't rape talim with that stupid semi-infinite
3. cf is harder and talim doesn't really cf anyway

the only "negative thing" is that her A+K doesn't glitch over people's lows anymore.
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

Personally, I'll miss Algol's raw damage output on the 3B~41236B ; /

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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

to be perfectly honest, algol's damage needed a tone down anyway. 22B stun was retarded

as long as otg bubble is still there algol lives =]
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaxel View Post (Post ID: #8455)
OYAJIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!
Sorry Dan, that's all I heard there.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Dullyanna View Post (Post ID: #8395)
@Ciernian: Coincidentally, many U.S. players think that Hilde is utter garbage. I'm still not sure about her, even with the combos that have shown up.
People only think that because they haven't seen a good Hilde player in action. As time goes on people will start to see that she's pretty damn good. If I can I'll put up some matches from the upcoming Norcal tournament on the 27th.
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Default Re: New : 1.03 Patch in Japan.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaxel View Post (Post ID: #8413)
The game is clearly balanced with online play in mind... This is one of the many reasons I hate the idea of games getting online play. People liked to say "if you don't like online play, nothing is forcing you to play it". But its not as simple as that, the changes made to the game because of the online play, affect you during offline play. The game is balanced for online, so offline balance gets the shaft.

Hell... they nerfed a Talim move! Offline she's the worst character in the game! Online... she's top tier.
Thousands if not millions of people play the game online every day. A few hundred gather in tournaments each year. Also, "online" in the US is almost nothing like ONLINE in Japan. What we are barely seeing the tip of with "super high speed" services like FiOS is almost commonplace there. Our network infrastructure basically sucks by comparison. We have skinny little bitch pipes, they have phat fat pipes.

They "balanced" the game the way top-rated JP players told them to do it. (Ironically, probably based on in-person tournaments, not online.) I've watched this happen I don't know how many times in Armored Core editions. Basically US players take what JP gives, like it or lump it it's that simple.

In short, cry more, Japan doesn't care. :-P
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